in other news, if anybody has up-to-date recommendations for a good Sunday roast in Birmingham city, I'd be happy to hear them. It's hard to buy a good roast dinner in a restaurant; my mum's is better. Nobody gets the potatoes right, for one thing. Places I have tried: the Wolf (overrated), the Church (used to be good, got bought), the Red Lion (used to be good, got redone, dunno if still good). 1000 Trades is expensive and posh. More suggestions are welcomed!