in other news, if anybody has up-to-date recommendations for a good Sunday roast in Birmingham city, I'd be happy to hear them. It's hard to buy a good roast dinner in a restaurant; my mum's is better. Nobody gets the potatoes right, for one thing. Places I have tried: the Wolf (overrated), the Church (used to be good, got bought), the Red Lion (used to be good, got redone, dunno if still good). 1000 Trades is expensive and posh. More suggestions are welcomed!

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@sil Button Factory looked to be shifting a lot of roasts when I poked my nose in recently, so might be worth a try.

@mavit ah, that might be good. It was OK last time I went, although not great, but having just checked that was in fact 2019 so there has been ample time for things to change...

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Time for a cuppa... Earl Grey please!