Chris Ellis @intrbiz@bergamot.social

@bigcalm @sil @alex seems that Echo should come with echo cancelling functionality, so you don't hear other people's alarms.

@bigcalm cool

@bigcalm able to make the LUG dinner tonight?

@geospaz wow, amazing. Thanks for the positive feedback and spotting the typos, I'll get them fixed ASAP.

@john it's mostly about is it viable for my day to day activities. Screen sharing was working in a meeting. And so far it seems to be going well. Not hit any stumbling blocks for all my common tasks, so will probably stick with Wayland now.

I'm excited to share https://pgvis.org/ a simple PostgreSQL extension for building visualisation dashboards.

It aims to offer an easy way to create visualisation dashboards with SQL and even exportable with just psql.

A little background: https://intrbiz.com/post/postgresql/pgvis-simple-visualisations-for-postgresql

Been a lot of talk here about X and Wayland, so I figured it was time to try Wayland again. Happy to say after a day everything is just working. This is KDE on @opensuse Tumbleweed. So nice and upto date. Fingers crossed it stays working.

@sil thats a good point, I'd not thought about it on those terms. But won't employer's currently using zero hour contracts just use casual work contracts. Surely if there was a balance of power, no one would take a zero hours contract.

@sil but how do you do that and also protect the ability to offer casual work. I just don't see it working in reality. Therefore this is just pointless posturing. I'd prefer a Labour party with charisma and a vision, something which they seem to lack.

@sil my main concern would be that any legislation which removes flexibility in contracts is likely to be very difficult and likely to backfire. Whereas a Labour party which supported unions and improving peoples rights might attract me more.

@sil it's interesting coming from a Labour party which doesn't seem to back unions. I can't see how legislation against these things won't just be used against people. Will it really address the power imbalance or will rich people just find another way around it that makes them rich?

@bigcalm How CSS gets handled is often pretty awful.

Combined with pretty awful transpiling and bundling complication processes.

It all feels very unwebby.

If its a new project, maybe try to use Svelte or another. Or ES6 modules and Rollup.

@bigcalm hacked on too much React for my liking over the last year or so.

I would say it's one of the most cargo culted ecosystems I've seen in a long time.

As React isn't really a framework, a lot of the complexity comes from the various other things used with it. Eg: Hooks or Redux, etc.

Some of the underpinnings of React are neat (questionable if still relevant).

I found Hooks pretty awful, you can't really read the code and understand what will happen.